09:01 < gabriel_RIPENCC> Hi everyone, I'm Gabriel Ajabahian from the RIPE NCC. If you have questions/comments for the presenter and want me to read it out, please state your name/affiliation and I'll go to the mic when questions are called for. Keep in mind that there is up to a 45 second delay for remote participants, so it's better to get your questions in before the question period begins."
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09:01 < gabriel_RIPENCC> Ondrej Filip has begun the presentation "Administrative Matters".
09:06 < gabriel_RIPENCC> Petr Spacek from CZ.NIC has begun the presentation "Knot Resolver - A Modern DNS Resolver ".
09:22 < gabriel_RIPENCC> Petr Spacek has asked for questions.
09:26 < gabriel_RIPENCC> The presentation has ended.
09:27 < gabriel_RIPENCC> Ondrej Sury from ICS has begun the presentation "Debian Packaging - for intermediates".
09:45 < MartinWi_> QUESTION: (Martin Winter, NetDEF/OpenSourceRouting) - I found that the generic debian packages are not very useful because of all the different variations in distributions and their differences. Problem is slight differences in packages available, systemd vs init.d, classic Debian vs Ubuntu or just older vs newer Debian. For the FRRouting package we use backports, but this makes the setup and testing very painful. Do you
09:45 < MartinWi_> have a better suggestion for a package across multiple debian distributions or what is your experience there?
09:46 < MartinWi_> QUESTION 2 (if time allows): (Martin Winter, NetDEF/OpenSourceRouting) - How do you deal with testing of the packages of code which you are not directly involved? How does a Debian Maintainer usually get the knowhow and potential tools to test the packages? The question is from the view of a OS developer trying to best help a package maintainer on a complex package (like FRRouting).
09:47 < gabriel_RIPENCC> Thank you, I will read your comment out when the presenter asks for questions.
09:54 < gabriel_RIPENCC> @MartingWi_ I'm not sure if you heard it, the presenter Ondrej Sury said if you can email him he will help answer more in details.
09:54 < MartinWi_> Got it, yes and I'll contact him
09:54 < gabriel_RIPENCC> The presentation has ended.
09:55 < gabriel_RIPENCC> Alex Saroyan from XCloud Networks has begun the presentation "Anatomy of White-Box Switches".
10:07 < MartinWi_> QUESTION: (Martin Winter, NetDEF/OpenSourceRouting) - With Broadcom, even if switches use the same chip and hardware, isn't it the case that Broadcom licenses by the feature and not all features are offered to all users? Other features are in the chip, but unknown to the vendor because of the strict NDAs and can't be used. What is your understanding there? How are Barefoot and Mellanox compared to this? Are they more open?
10:08 < gabriel_RIPENCC> Alex Saroyan has asked for questions.
10:18 < gabriel_RIPENCC> The presentation has ended.
10:19 < gabriel_RIPENCC> Ondrej Sury has begun BIND 9.1.12 quick update
10:27 < MartinWi_> (not really a question, but would appreciate to have it mentioned anyway): (Martin Winter, NetDEF/OpenSourceRouting) As a alternative to BIRD, FRRouting just released 3.0 major version a week ago with around 2000 new commits since version 2.0 from 6 months ago
10:28 < gabriel_RIPENCC> I will ask him the moment he finish.
10:35 < gabriel_RIPENCC> This session has now ended.
10:35 < MartinWi_> Gabriel: Thanks for relaying all my questions and comment